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We cannot avoid karma during our lifetime. But at least when we pass away, we go to a high place and blissful place. That's important. So, you see, like the people who are uplifted by grace to a higher dimension from this world, even though they're uplifted to a higher place, but it's only by grace. So, if they are doing something wrong in this lifetime, they still have to pay for it. They still have to suffer, to compensate. So sometimes, they still have to, pay with their lives or pay with their sickness or something, or pass away during disasters, natural disasters, or accidents, but their souls have been saved, nevertheless. Just the screening program.
Like, it's all uplifted, same, no discrimination, but some have a little lower level, some suffer more, and some suffer less. Because of the degree of their good or bad actions before they passed away makes them suffer, if they did something wrong, even after grace. Same with your brothers and sisters, all of you. That's why even after initiation, you still have to continue to be a good being on this planet, be a saintly person. So that your physical, your mental, your emotion, your psyche, your psychological aspect of your being will not suffer while you are still in this physical plane. If the initiate already has been initiated and free from all past karma but still does something wrong, then they have to suffer psychological, emotional, or mental or physical. So, you have to continue to keep a high standard and the Five Precepts.
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何謂天堂（五集之一）2012.04.07
2019-01-21
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天堂指的是某些地方，某些意識等級，比人類高的意識等級。
他們掌管我們居住的這個宇宙。他們很仁慈、很有愛心、
很優雅。天堂不會懲罰我們，是我們自己的良心在懲罰我們，
當我們犯錯時。因為我們的內在，都有佛性，都有上帝。
所以，如果我們犯了錯，自己會知道。
不用別人告訴我們是好、是壞。我們自己會知道。
我們在潛意識裡會知道。
何謂天堂（五集）2012.04.07
2019-01-21
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何謂天堂（五集之四）2012.04.07
2019-01-24
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摘要
我們無法避免因果業障，在我們這一生。
但至少當我們走時會去高的、充滿喜悅之處。那才重要。
是啊，所以像是由於恩典而被從這世界提昇至較高境界的人，
雖然他們被提昇到較高等的地方，不過那只是由於恩典。
所以如果他們在這輩子做錯了什麼，他們仍然得要清付，
仍然得要受苦來補償。
所以有時候他們仍然要付出他們生命的代價，
或付出生病的代價，或什麼的，或在災難、
天災或意外事故中死亡，不過不管怎樣，
他們的靈魂都已獲得解脫。這只是篩選的計畫。
就像都被提昇了，同樣，沒有分別，
不過有的等級較低一點，有的受苦較多，有的受苦較少。
因為他們往生前行為好壞的程度…還會讓他們受苦，
若他們曾經做過錯事，即使在得到恩典後也如此。
你們大家，師兄、師姊們也都一樣。
所以即使印心以後，你們仍要繼續在這地球上當個好的眾生，
當個聖潔的人。是啊，這樣的話，當你還在這個物質世界時，
你的身體、心智、感情、精神、
你的整個精神心理層面就不會受苦。如果已經印心的同修，
雖然已經免於所有過去世業障，但還是做錯事的話，
那麼他們心理、情感、心智或肉體上還是得受苦。
所以你們必須繼續保持高標準以及守五戒。
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何謂天堂 清海無上師（五集之四）2012.04.07
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